FranklinCovey On Leadership

In a world obsessed with speed, what if the most powerful leadership move is to tap the brakes? In this episode, Shawn Vanderhoven—partner at The Wiseman Group and co-author of Pause: How to Lead Brilliant Work in a Busy World—joins Jennifer Colosimo to share what he’s learned from researching hundreds of leaders and high-performing teams. Shawn explains why so many managers feel overcommitted, addicted to activity, and unintentionally pass busyness down to their people, especially as AI accelerates expectations. He describes the simple behaviors that distinguish leaders who create clarity, calm, and space for deep work from those who amplify chaos. Through real stories and practical tools, Shawn shows how to design time for focus, reduce distraction, and shift from a bias for constant action to a bias for impact—so your team can do the kind of work they’re truly capable of.

In many organizations, the ideal employee is still the one who’s always on, answers instantly, and never seems to slow down. Elizabeth Svoboda—award-winning science journalist and author of The Art of Pacing—joins Jennifer Colosimo to challenge that myth with evidence from neuroscience, psychology, and elite performance. Elizabeth explains why “grind” culture quietly erodes physical and mental health, drives talented people out, and ultimately undermines productivity. She shares what happens in our brains and bodies when we ignore limits, how leaders’ own narratives about overwork shape their teams, and why learning to pull back before you hit the wall is an act of courage, not weakness. Drawing on real research and practical tools, Elizabeth shows how leaders can model healthier pacing, spot early warning signs of overload, and create environments where people can sustain high performance over the long term.

What does effective leadership look like when every decision can affect a patient’s life? In this episode, Erica DeBoer, Chief Nursing Officer at Sanford Health, joins Jennifer Colosimo to share how she leads 11,000 nurses and 55,000 team members across one of the nation’s largest rural health systems. Erica describes her philosophy of stewardship, why leadership is less about having all the answers and more about creating the conditions for great decisions, and how she keeps “brilliance at the bedside” at the center of every choice. She explains why clarity matters more than certainty, how Sanford’s high-reliability journey and SAFE (Sanford Accountability for Excellence) framework guide communication, and practical ways she equips frontline teams to speak up, solve problems, and focus on what matters most. Along the way, she highlights simple practices—like huddles, repeated messaging, and visible presence—that build trust, strengthen engagement, and improve both the employee and patient experience.

How do you lead through constant disruption without losing sight of people, purpose, or performance? In this episode, Kat Cole—CEO of AG1, former president of Cinnabon, and longtime operator and investor—joins Jennifer Colosimo to share the pivotal moments that shaped her philosophy of leadership. Kat reflects on rising from restaurant hostess to executive, turning Cinnabon around after the Great Recession, and steering franchise and hospitality businesses through COVID when revenue evaporated overnight. She explains why “being clear-eyed” about what’s broken, focusing on what truly matters, and being willing to take unpopular actions are essential in volatile times. Kat also talks about the beliefs great leaders hold about people, how they balance optimism with realism, and the everyday habits—listening, taking action, seeking feedback, and growing on purpose—that allow them to build trust, unlock potential, and create opportunity in any environment.

When every leader is being told to “have an AI strategy,” where do you actually start? Neil Hoyne—Google’s Chief Strategist and author of Converted—joins Jennifer Colosimo to reframe the conversation around what really drives growth. Drawing on two decades in rooms with CEOs, boards, and frontline teams, Neil explains why the first question isn’t which AI model to buy, but what business problem you’re trying to solve and how you’ll deploy limited resources to capture real opportunities. He talks about the psychology of data—why even the most sophisticated leaders override it, how metrics get weaponized into sales pitches, and what it takes to build disciplined experimentation instead. Neil also shares how to reconnect spreadsheets to the human stories behind them, design standards for “how much data is enough,” and use AI as a tool in service of clear strategy rather than a shiny object that drives it.

When leaders roll out change, they often push harder on the message instead of pausing to understand why people are resisting. In this episode, Chris Voss—former FBI hostage negotiator and author of Never Split the Difference—returns to On Leadership to explore how empathy and understanding fuel real collaboration in times of uncertainty. Chris explains why the human needs for safety, agency, and feeling understood are just as critical in the conference room as they are in a negotiation. He shows how leaders can “go slow to go fast” by articulating what their people are thinking, using tools like the accusations audit, and shifting from “being heard” to helping others feel heard. Along the way, he offers practical language and mindsets leaders can use to lower resistance, build trust, and move teams forward—even when they can’t offer certainty about the future.

What separates the leaders whose teams truly thrive from those who are barely hanging on? In this episode, Patrick Leddin, Jennifer Colosimo, Victoria Roos Olsson, and Doug Faber introduce ideas from their new book, Expect a Lot, Care a Lot: How 6 Critical Practices Create High-Performing Teams. Drawing on years of FranklinCovey research and their own experience leading teams and business units around the world, they explore the “human edge” of strategy—why technology and plans aren’t enough without leaders who know how to build capability, trust, and sustained performance. The conversation covers the current state of leadership, the rise of “accidental leaders,” and the daily, repeatable behaviors that help people feel both challenged and supported. Whether you’re leading for the first time or have been in the role for decades, they offer a practical starting point for being more intentional about how you clarify expectations, develop others, and create a culture where people can do their best work over time.